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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 14:16:00 -
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To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.
1 Bob do not always post their losses
2 When they do post their losses they are often slow about it so they do not appear on any daily K/D ratio
3 Bob killboard does not show allied deaths but shows all kills a Bob member was involved in even if he was just 1 member in a fleet battle
4 Bob killboard shows Battelship K/D ratios yet Bob fly a lot of tech II cruisers.
Non of the above are unique to Bob and help to explain many great looking stats around the various allaince/merc killboards.
Slowly some killboards have attempted to address this with points sytems and isk values, but until there is a universal killboard then we can enjoy the speculation we have about who has the biggest best and most impressive K/D ratio and if CAOD wasn't arguing about K/D then it would soon find something else to whine about.
Were Bob have been out ahead of other allainces in the past is in the K/D ratio chest beating, but even that has died down to more normal levels in the last 6-12 months now they are taking a beating.
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 16:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
To respond to the OP, reasons I found Bobs killboard to be inaccurate (and it's been a long time since I was in the south) were.
[b]1 Bob do not always post their losses.
Glad to see the bitterness doesn't fade with time CptStabwash 
I don't believe my post was neither bitter or even comes accross as bitter, I cannot however say the same for your post.
Originally by: Angelus X
It's well known that all BoB pilots post their lossmails, and on the rare occasion that any do get missed, they are more than welcome to be sent to any BoB CEO or Director and said pilot gets a spanking. 
So do All Bob pilots post their loss mails or do they on the rare occasion get missed? (option 1 then I apologise for my inaccuracy, Option 2 my statement stands)
As i mentioned in my first post I have been in the north a long time now so maybe things have changed but i very much doubt it.
Previously regardless of what Allaince leadership thought or desired Bob pilots were not posting many loss mails,(not all not even a majority but a significant proportion) it is yet another example of Bob arrogance that you expect pilots to be bothered to send killmails to your leaders to correct your KB, frankly most pilots just don't care enough about Bob stats.
Originally by: Angelus X
The problem with allied mails is unavoidable, short of giving every single pilot that's ever been on a KM aside a BoB pilot access to our killboard...
We agree it is a problem and not one in my opinion worth the effort of sorting it out.
Originally by: Angelus X
I'd like to see another alliances killboard more accurate than ours.
And to think I had thought Bob had learnt to supress it's arrogance 
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: YouShallKnowFear
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Stuff
1 My post very specifically mentioned it was a long time since i was fighting Bob in the south certainly pre API killboards. I am under the impression however that API has problems with losses and they may not get posted.
2 Does the Bob killboard hold logs on when posts are made? if so I think it would be interesting to see how many get posted on a different day to their timestamp.
3 I am not part of the coalition, I don't speculate how many allies Bob has remaining. even according to your off the top of your head figure of 90% then allies account for roughly a 10% killboard inaccuracy. Significant enough for me to mention when responding to the OP as a factor in the killnoard stats.
4 It is entirely possible Bob have changed their fleet makeup since I fought them. I do not have the benefit of forum spies or Database knowledge/access enough to examine the killboard. A quick look at the the KB does suggest that Bob lose a lot more Tech II cruisers than they do battleships.
5 K/D stats may be as good as ever but the stats here Eve Territorial Maps suggests they are on the wrong end of the mother of all beatings
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.12 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Shreder
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
5 K/D stats may be as good as ever but the stats here Eve Territorial Maps suggests they are on the wrong end of the mother of all beatings
Ok goonalt . The question was around the KILLBOARD and FLEETBATTLES, not how many regions has bob taken or lost. post with your goon main, and we all know your saying. It's not K/D ratios, but about the end objective. Don't work so hard to push your propaganda.
And I andswered the OP's question to the best of my ability including some background which wasn't directly a reason for the K/D figures but a some addition info regarding the Bob Killboard
My anti Bob cridentials go way beyond the formation of Eve Goons and right back into the pre Bob era with emnity toward Evolution and ATUK/DICE stretching back as far as 2003.
and wasn't it DBP who liked to quote: It's better to keep quiet and have people think you're stupid, than to open your mouth and confirm it.
- Mark Twain
For the first time in my forum career I am going to advise somebody to listen to DBP
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